I have made a new version without the laurel. Better? :wink:

The pose of the villa lion matched the one on the coat of arms the best, and I thought the Lion on the voat of arms was a bit too ...

Thank you both for your comments.Yeah, I didn't want to select any logos that were already decent so I tried to go for ones that are a bit crap.@steevo - ...

Not an improvement IMO, the G in the original crest stands for the city the team plays in, and removing that was a mistake.

Not the most pleasant shades of sky blue and mid/dark blue used, they do not really work. Its a nice idea, but nicer shades of blue would make this kit ...

Great home and away kits, but the third would be unacceptable, as it uses the same shade of red (or one close) to that of rivals Fluminense.

Like the shirt design, but you need black shorts on this.

Sure you did not take the Eagle from the Crystal Palace crest, sure looks like the eagle from that crest. A lot better than what they have, but not too ...

This is the change kit, the description should say change kit and in white shirts and white shorts.

It is, lol.

Why black and white? This does not look like Russia at all.

I think the shirts great, but like a lot of your kits, the shorts are the wrong colour. Man United play in white shorts. Very neat shirt, I like the ...

it's a nice design, not keen on the font used or the spacing of the stars, look a bit tight together.

both are nice and would grace a Tangerine shirt, but detailed version for sure, on both the font is great.

Yeah, I had another go at this one today, and its far better than this one. Ill sort the font out.