I meant both the FCL and the club name on there together, just one would be fine

i also didn't get the idea of using full name and initals, but i just sticked to the original crest.

Chrille300, I quite like your Idea of a shield for this logo but I don't like the laurel you have put around the shield.:wink:

AvFc07, why if I may ask have you opted to use the Aston Villa lion here in the crest? it would have been so much better in my opinion if ...

I like it but would move the banner so you can see more of the griffin. I can see what you're trying but i think it would give it a ...

I think Barnsley is a good choice as their badge is pretty crap...but I think this looks far too much like an Arsenal knock off

I tend to agree with Steevo here, you could have skipped the banner all to gather and let the griffin been shown, the lettering could have gone under neath it ...

I agree with Steevo, the Barnsley logo is not good as a club logo, but ok as a art in is self, here is a logo that is ideal to ...

I have made a new version without the laurel. Better? :wink:

The pose of the villa lion matched the one on the coat of arms the best, and I thought the Lion on the voat of arms was a bit too ...

Thank you both for your comments.Yeah, I didn't want to select any logos that were already decent so I tried to go for ones that are a bit crap.@steevo - ...

Not an improvement IMO, the G in the original crest stands for the city the team plays in, and removing that was a mistake.

Not the most pleasant shades of sky blue and mid/dark blue used, they do not really work. Its a nice idea, but nicer shades of blue would make this kit ...

Great home and away kits, but the third would be unacceptable, as it uses the same shade of red (or one close) to that of rivals Fluminense.

Like the shirt design, but you need black shorts on this.