Lose all of the black on the shirt and stick with the standard coloured badge (or even the red monochrome one would be better than a black and white one!) and it's a nice england shirt.

Why do people ruin the England crest by turning it monochrome? Just keep it colourful.

@Spider Because that's been the recent trend with England shirts... the majority of people who post designs here, whether consciously or not, somewhat follow the trends.

Personally I don't think it's a bad thing as it does show that people are designing their kits with realism in mind. And most of the time I prefer monochromatic badges as they add to the design of the kit rather than detract as sometimes a full coloured badge might.

Your objection should be directed to the designers at Umbro who started the trend, not to the amateur designers on here...

@Fenton The problem I have with Monochromatic crests is that more often than not, the crest has a colour that has meaning, such as the Tudor Roses on the England crest, which symbolises the union of two royal families (Tudor and York) and on England as a whole. That meaning is lost. Its the same with a lot of other teams - Mexico, Colombia, Germany - the monochrome badges on their change kits for the world cup do lose meaning. Sometimes it can be a good thing (Lille 3rd), but others, it really cheapens the kit.

And yeah, that is a fair point, I personally hate most of the monochrome crests, but most of the objections should be levelled at the designers at umbro who started it.

I agree with Fenton.

I think Modern shirts look best with less invasive crests.

The crest is the symbol of the team, its what the players should play for (well, one of the things) and it should have meaning. Its the most important thing on the kit, therefore I have no problem with it being obtrusive. In fact, a crest being obtrusive is like a really loud rooster - doing what its meant to do. A crest be two things - Loud and Proud.

@Spider i think people/ the players can still tell its england's crest regardless of colour. Overall, i just wanted to do something different.

@Spider I think the colors of the full kit themselves do a bigger job of representing a team. That and the numbers are the only real points of emphasis

@moom On home kits, I would agree with you on the colours, but on change kits, the crest can play a bigger role, especially when the club are introducing a new colour scheme. If they used a monotone crest on that, it would detract from the design, but the full colour crest would be preferable.

For many teams, the crests are a real point of emphasis, especially if it represents more than the club/team, for example Bastia, Bayern Munchen, Corinthians, or even if it just represents the club itself.

It also depends on the colours in the crest. If the crest has the colours of a flag in there, such as Valencia, or a colour that represents something important that would be lost if the colours were changed (Colo - Colo), then the crest should be left well alone.

There are cases where a monotone crest looks awesome (Lille 3rd), but many teams have crests that should really be left alone.

@Spider I would like to thank you for your feedback and i'm impressed by your global football knowledge that you have demonstrated by throwing obscure examples of teams. However, I will continue to design things I'd like to see/purchase/wear and look forward to your future comments on my future designs.