The only thing bevel and emboss is good for is making things look cheap and tacky.

I prefer the second design :wink: Look forward to see the finished design!

I think the top one is more in keeping with Greek design, a proper border.

Well, I am Greek, I like the kit overall but I don't think that it suits the national team for football. I mean, square shaped collar? And that big? And the numbers should be normal not letter related like the 3 with the Σ. But still the kit is nice

I would go for the blue kit. Very nice work! that would definitely work. I sopuse that the

Blue in my opinion. Looks great!

I am also Greek,so,use the first collar-white with blue maeandrus pattern-but not square !! a slight v collar should be better as most vintage greek kits had the v collar shape.Get rid of the greek letter number or that awfull font on second one.Plus one more thing,the badge is the opposite of what you have,blue with white details:wink:

many thanks for the feedback guys! Very much appreciated and good to see the reaction. To be fair its not my intention to create something which would make a viable football kit, purely fantasy, and to create something which hasn't been seen before, hence the square collar (a direct nod to ancient greek clothing)

Interesting comments made by the Greek guys about the use of Sigma as a number, Ill have to look into it, and create something new.

Also giannakakis interesting point about the crest, I'm trying to come up with something that makes the badge stand out on the shirt, I think it gets lost on the blue, so Ill have a look into this too.

Many thanks guys!

about the badge,try Bevel and Emboss through Photoshop,it will give it a ''stand out'' view : Highlight mode 14 and shadow mode 35.