No i suppose you're right. I guess a language barrier might play a part. I just don't appreciate his insistence that his shirts are undeniably better than mine and that Spider chose the wrong winners because his were 'blatantl'y better.

Any chance of getting this dickhead banned?

The posts in all capitals have been taken down. I do not really see a need for a ban, he is just giving his opinions even if they are a bit strongly worded. I'll take some action if he persists bugging you about this matter though.

This one. :smile:

oh right thanks hahaha

I hope l may say mine opinion(without erasing capitals) and argumented analyse of this kit without taking off., and without cruisifying an attacks on me...

1. Used concept as a total for AWAY KIT is not quality solution , because, if team going away to some green kit home team, thay can wear Even first green_white kit; neither this one with several shades of green: In total, mixed green shadows away kit is not clever usufull and exsistable idea.

2.Aded pale green horizontal strips on the sleeves; neck and socks , and way of theirs ends has no same continuing design logic. Also they all has no same design position.

3. The kit tehnicly has even 9 different shadowds and intershadows of green, ( if you zoom it full you can count all 9) ..what is for one 'clear intended' kit , too much.

4. Shorts logo is predimensioned.

5. The main front body 'green-white' dubble 'italic' strip is wrong angled and wrong too high positioned, so in combination with sponsors logo and nike loge gives all heavyness on top right sholder. No eye balanced look and simetry...

6. The top end of the same strips on the left sholder is asimetric interrupted, so it has ugly different 'end design' logic.

7. Position of the sponsors logo is not economicly clever mentioned. It is deminuted, displaced from main cheast position, what means less sponsors money.

8. On the back side there is missed to design players name and position for it.

9.The tailors design sleeves and shorts laterals sides , has no same unique continuing designs, but are solutions for two different kits which has no logic touch between each other

10. Generaly , kit is not some new unique , not original recoznabile design, more ordinary one , it isn't specially attractive, what weatness a neglective number of audiance hits until paying attention with winner declaring and disscutions.

11. Tourougt it is matter of taste, using 3 main shades of green, on the front with furter adding a white with that, looks missed.

12. In total: too much mistakes, too much green shades, missing same continuing design logic, different ending shapes, missed basic away kit purpose idea, desingned economicly decreased sponsor potention, different designed tailors parts, missing players name design...so l think that this work is not realy acceptable as winner because there was at least 5 better and more attractive designs.

That is my opinion according analyse that l can see here.
If someone think that l see wrong , please, comments are wellcome

And the best change kit, great design and colours. Well done Julian.

congratulations to julian21. well done.

Spider, l am really sorry if ve been ill. l hope you are well now.

one question for you if you allow;

How is possible that you allow to julian kit using 5 shades of green, and at same time for some other kits, that 'technical problem' you notice '4 green shades' as a reason for leaving out?

lf l see well, here is used even 5 green shades too;

1. sleeves, cheast and neck strips light green shade
2. main 'italic' body strip shade light
3. main 'italic' body strip deep
4. lateral ,side strip shade with '-)eepness' between two greens above...
5. (and even 6) tiny lines that pasing from lateral sides across 2 main 'italic' strips on the body genereting still new 2 shades across each one...

and all that on the template which is not even 3D?

If l don't see well, please explain me yours criterium?

Thanks!

Thanks Spider, really pleased with how this turned out.

And to spaladium, fuck you.

Not even 3D??!?! It dosn't make a difference, I don't like how you're insinuating that just because your kits are designed at angle it somehow makes them better than mine?!

There are 3 shades of green here. All intended. And I believe, and seemingly does Spider, that they compliment each other. Yours does not. They were all meant to be the same colour, it didn't come out that way and they clashed. Don't be a sore loser.

It was not an easy decision picking four home kits out of the entry, the final cut was not easy at all. It was a close run thing.

On this kit, I know Julian has used different shades of green, but this is the change kit.

The 'Italic' body stripes in two shades of dark green bring attention to the main white and Emerald green stripes. The emerald green on the cuffs and collar, plus on the AN logo and two stripes goes well with the darker green.

The side panels have a pattern that is there to replicate a mesh fabric, and its mostly the same shade (or close) to the dark green on the sleeves and shorts.

I was judging your home kit on several criteria, and it met most of them. Just that the different shades of green for your kit looked jarring, and that put me off.

The different shades used on Julians kit work very well together and compliment the kit.

Visualsportdesign, Im glad you entered, and you did make some really good shirts. Thanks.

I dont mind you asking questions, Im glad you asked, it shows you were dissapointed over not winning, and you care.

@Julian - I dont think he was having a go at your shirt over its lack of 3D ness, just confusion over the number of colours in the shirt.

'and all that on the template thats is not even 3d?'

not even 3d...... must mean 3d is infinitely better of course..

Well you're the only one who dislikes the kit.

I personally think its one of my better kits.

1. I can understand your point for the green away, but thats where a third kit comes in. In the same sense, AC Milan should never have a black kit, celtic should never have a white or dark green kit, but they do, and they sell and it works.

2. I don't understand what point you're making.

3. The kit has 3 different shades. There are shadows implemented in places, so if you're going into that I guess you could say 5, I don't know where you got 9 from.

4. predimensioned?

5. Its what makes the design different and unique. I think it works, but if you don't ok.

6. Again, don't understand you.

7. There are many examples of sponsors moving placement for sashes. Man City's 2010/11 white shirt being a prime example.

8. As far as I could tell the Columbian league/ Atletico, does not accommodate player names.

9. No idea what you mean.

10. In your eyes it isn't. But thats opinion not fact. Yes, you have more views than me, but that dosn't really mean anything.

11. I agree, it is a matter of taste.

12. Sadly, you did not judge the competition, I was surprised to win, as there were lots of great designs there, but if I did, I did, and I'll take that.

Finally, enough of this. I hate being the guy thats clogging up the feed with some argument that evidently won't be finished. I'm ending it now, I WON'T be replying to anything you post, no matter how non-sensical it is. I apologise for swearing, you just angered me with some of your posts. Personally, I just felt you were acting immature about not winning. If you didn't care about the competition, shouldn't have entered.

Sorry everyone, won't do it again!!!

Well thank you for not posting in capitals this time.

I'm just curious as to why you didn't point out all of these details before the competition was judged.

Just know that everyone has a different opinion and Spider's opinion was this was the best of the away kits posted, please respect that.

Julian has replied to your points and critiques and apologised for any offensive language he used, so please just let this matter drop now.