@AroGerhardson Hello Aro, I do prefer the second concept, reasons being, Fleur de lis is fully visible, in the first concept it is not really clear what that is since it is missing the right tip (especially for someone who is not familiar with a Fleur de lis at all). Also, I have some proportional issues in the first concept, FdL middle tip being bigger that The Mastiffs head (dog head). In the second concept I think it would be better to go with a bit different typography. LOSC instead of Lille OSC, since the way it is at the moment, proportions are again a bit of the issue, OSC being bigger than Lille might be understood as if OSC is more important than Lille :)