Sounds great to me! The only thing I'd suggest is to change #4, as I think there are well known teams in America (USA, Mexico, and Brazil, among a few others) and Asia (mostly China, Japan and maybe South Korea) that could be used and that would bring more "diversity" to the competition. But that's not much of a big deal - if for practicity's sake it'd be better to only use European teams, that's perfectly fine.
yes, i intended to pick the clubs randomly for every match (as i said, top-middle level european clubs) and i will try to be as neutral as i can, but if is any better idea of picking the clubs, i'm glad to hear. and yeah, we can use real sportswear brand or our own fantasy brand. Also we can use the club logo, an old logo of the club, or any interpretation or rebranding of our own choise.
There are some other details that i would like to lay down to you for an open discussion. Any participant can come with ideas or feedback in these matters. (till tomorrow)
1. The designs for voting will be posted in just 2 posts, one for matches from the groups A and B (wich will be bracket together later) and the other for groups C and D. We'll do that to keep things tidy and for easing the voting procces. 2. All the competitors are expected to vote on all matches except those in their group. We also invite any user to cast votes in as many matches as possible (see 3.) 3. I propose that the votes from very new users (under 20 account visualizations) not to be taken into consideration. 4. For this inaugural season, my idea is to use pretty known clubs from top leagues/divisions across Europe. 5. I propose that the entries must be at least 1200*1200px and i intend to use 1:1 crop scale for the voting posts.
I am gladly open to any opinions and sugestions. If everything is fine, tomorrow we'll start the competition. The entries must be posted till thursday august 29, 23:59 CET (not a very strict rule, i will accept entries till friday when i prepare the voting and next matchday)
Hello all again. This is the drawing of the groups (i was using an app called Random Name Picker). For the next seasons, we'll seed the designers according to the results from the previous seasons. Few rules and details: GROUP STAGE The competitors will play against each other home-and-away in a round-robin format. In the first 3 rounds/matchdays, home shirt/kit of the given club will be designed and in the last 3, the away shirt/kit. Trough the group stage, standings will be decided by the points and in case of ties, vote difference (VD) and votes for (VF) will be used in this order. However, the final standings in case of tied participants will be determined using the following criteria, in the given order: 1. points in head to head matches among tied competitors 2. VD in head to head matches among tied competitors 3. VD in all group matches 4. VF in all group matches (if needed, we'll use further criteria inspired by football competitions)
KNOCKOUT STAGE In the knockout stages, each tie will be played over two legs (1st leg - home shirt, 2nd leg - away shirt). For the 2nd leg of the knockout stages, the given time for voting will be one day shorter (friday to thursday) and the competitor recieving more votes on aggregate advances to the next round. There will be no such thing as "away goal rule" so in case of an aggregate tie, an extra day of voting will be allowed (thursday to friday). If the situation stays the same, "golden vote" will be aplied - first vote will be the winning vote. (hope we'll never get to this because this will mean that next round could be postponed a bit) The final will be held in one leg, and the finalists will design whatever type of shirt/kit they want (home, away, 3rd, 4th, goalkeeper, special edition, anniversary, etc)(of the given club).
Hacobcem, I think there was no need for the hostile comments you placed in a reply to Rabbi, MartinLeRoy and Terion. You are new to this website, so hopefully, now you know that this will not be tolerated in the future. Try to respect the other members and their work. Thanks
I didn't want to be involved with terion in a first place and did ask him to stay away from my work, as there are many others that he can leave his commentaries on, but he didn't listened to me at all. Sorry for my last message to him, but everyone has a breaking point - it will not happen again, my promise to you.
Design Football, I did asked him to stay away from me and not leave any comments to my posts - but he kept coming and ignored and disrespected me. So, he got from me what he deserve! And like you told him do not add oil to the flame - well said!
In my opinion for a situation like this to end, the best way is that the one that started to stop or to be stopped. I dont think that if someone come here and throw with insults must be protected and dealt with gloves only in a struggle to have a zen garden here.
But i understand your point and i end any conversation with this user.
Yes, I read it and there is only so much of that kind of behaviour before a user gets banned, and he's close to this point with his latest comment. That said, does it help by going back and forth with insults and calling out this or that. You can see where it's going right? For the sake of the community wouldn't it be better to stay away from it instead of throwing oil on the fire?
I'm not saying it's your fault at all, I just hoped you would understand this. I just asked if all involved can end this. Is this too much to ask?
so again this is somehow my fault? did you even read all of hacobcem comments towards me and rabbi, or do i need to forward you the private messages also, so you can judge me more accurate here? let me understand...the more aggressive somebody is here, the more protected ?
One black button ??? Touch of a genius!!! Bravo!!! And then the " M 's " on the sleeves - superb!!! It is nice to see a person with an exceptional talent actually coming out of the shade and not hiding anymore. MUFC - should hire you full time.
Hello all and thanks for joining. Right now we are 12 so we can start the comeptition with 3 groups format, winners, runner-ups and best two 3rd palces qualifying to the quaterfinals, or wait for another 4 to join..(that would be ideal)...what you think?
in my humble opinion this is a top design in that it fits in with the clubs kit history and has respect for the team. It meets my other criteria in that it is genuinely a shirt I would wear. I had started with something similar= but not as good, so I need to make some changes before submitting!!!
i can see what you're saying but there's not only one way of seeing this...i planned a black/dark third with golden details. i know the away looks a bit bussy and i was very close of posting a more "white" version, but i think it looks just fine even is a bit "all flag". you are right about Saint Etienne and in fact this template was buit with saint etienne in mind
Hello Terion, I do like the seams pattern placement on both jerseys. However, on the away one I think that is way too annoying ( you like to use that word a lot ) to have green/white/red repeated three times : collar, badge, sleeves. I would love to see the away jersey with plain white sleeves, and the collar might look cool with that shade of blue and tiny golden stripes in there, same as on the badge. The home one looks better, but the design of the collar with these tick lines of : green/white/red makes me think of 1976 Saint -Etienne iconic shirt. Good, solid design, so far, but needs some adjustments.
I think, Rabbi, if you would remove a symbol on top and work more on the design that is filled inside the circle - that might develope into an interesting logo . As the top symbol is being heavily overused many times. Yoy keep saying Maori - so, then start sketching in that regard and see where you end up. Based on what you said, I do believe that there is another way to make a statement about New Zealand without the top symbol. That is all that I want to say.
You're right. Along with the sash the chevron is more widespread in parts of Europe and Latin America. England is the home of the plain shirt. St George were the first rugby league club to adopt a V design. During and after WW2 more Aussie RL clubs adopted this design, including Eastern Suburbs, who's colours were light blue with a red and white chevron. They soon changed the light blue to their traditional navy blue. The great French team of the 1950's wore a tricolor chevron design. British clubs like St Helens tended to change to V designs during the 1960's.
the V is very historic in soccer and has been dropped by many teams. Some colour combinations will always be synonymous with certain teams I suppose. I just fancied doing an Icelandic team that do not play home games in Reykjavik, for some reason.
You're right about the "V" or chevron design, it does shout rugby league. Besides, this yellow is more gold, whereas the Wires yellow is officially primrose. It could be a Leeds Rhinos away kit, their colours are blue and amber.
as you have the right to say and do whatever you want , being "in control", so do i. if you dont understand that posting douzens of designs once is annoying, then we really cannot have a conversation...the level would be too low. Also, mr english perfection, i think you mean "merry way", not "marry" .. looool
You are the annoying one - that is very obvious from the very start, too bad that you cannot see the obvious, sorry. So, stay away from my posts - there are plenty others to leave the comments on. That being said - go your own marry way.
Hello all. I would very much like to start a competition for kit/shirt designing. This would be a group stage - knockout competition similar to the champions league format and is not suposed to rival the KOTW competition in any way.
General rules will be: - groups of 4 (how many - depending of the number of participants) - each participant meets the others from the group in 2 legged format - in the first leg we'll design the home shirt of designated club, in 2nd leg - away shirt - 3 points for victory, 1 point for draw - 0-5 loss in case of forfait - direct matches results will be used in case of tied final points. (further details later) - winner of the group and the runners-up qualifying to the knockout stage - the final will be held in 1 leg - entries must include the front of the shirt. Shorts, full kit or back view are optional - real or fictional branding / sponsors can be used - real or redesigned badges of the club can be used
More details and rules are to follow later. Also please feel free to propose ideas and improvements. For going further with this competition i need to know the number of designers wishing to participate so please let me know your opinion and intention.
you are in control and there are no rules about consecutive posting, yet....but i'm telling you that this is annoying for the rest of us and does not make you any good.. I am as well a straight forward person and i was often criticised for my honest critique...i dont like at all this kindda "political correctness" that is literally killing us (in every aspect of our life, not just here), but you can try to be more civilized in your honesty, because otherwise it sounds very arrogant, and that is not very cool.
I am in control what and how many I can upload to the page. By the way, there are no limitations of any sort nor rules posted during the upload of the artwork on how many you can post. I'm not a professional designer - it is only my hobby, but I like to explore some of my ideas. My approach for a constructive critiqhue is not agressive - I tell straight forward, without any sugar coating or butt kissing. Feel free to leave a constructive critique on my uploads, as I left mine for yours. Europian to Europian, in solidarity!